Sun’rise’ & ‘set’- the Illusion that defines the Boundaries of our World (part 2)

IMG_0738“What is above knows what is below, but what is below does not know what is above. One climbs, one sees. One descends, one sees no longer”      -Rene Daumal 


While making a video, I used the red lines in the screenshot above/left to display the perspective of the perceived sun on the horizon, and how the source seems to be radiating from above, and reflected off multiple hidden horizons behind our range of experience. But what I wasn’t expecting, is to recognize its significance to esoteric symbolism. As most are aware, symbolism always consists of two or more meanings. The perspective I wish to point out tends to remain obscured within most so-called ‘truth communities’, but could be the most critical concept needed for an awareness to reality in this world. Part 1; Sun’rise’ & ‘set’- The Illusion that defines the Boundaries of our World covered the observable evidence’s in relation to our perceived horizon and apparent sun’rise’ and ‘set’ as an optical illusion, and likely being reflected off earth itself. This entry will focus directly on the symbolism that seems to lead in the same exact direction…

Here’s the link to the brief video on this topic

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Standing atop a pyramid and holding a torch (Sun?), she wears a veil to conceal her body (earth?).


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Here she can be seen stripped of her veil, fully naked, standing atop ‘earth’, above the ‘path to enlightenment’. Note the peacock within the cave.


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The top half of this illustration shows the sun reflecting of mirrors (mirages?) of an arch (earth), and casting an image onto a screen (horizon, range of perception, atmosphere/luminiferous ether?).
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The table may be flat, but the light is only directed into the vase
Here we see Nut, the sky goddess (luminiferous ether/atmosphere?) reflecting the Sun’s light into a bowl (earth?). We also see the sun reflecting onto a cave (earth?), and again off a mirror (mirage?) within this cave. Also notice the two peacocks (Dielectric fields?).



The Peacock

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I’ve personally come to suspect a dielectric field with double vortices, resulting in a heart-shaped realm. This could explain the two peacocks, but it would only be wise to refrain from concluding something so far beyond our capacity to prove. I would recommend anyone interested in light and magnetism to read Ken Wheelers books and observe his many examples.

The evidence of this ‘dielectric field‘ may be more observable than we originally thought. It may consequently result in our blue skies that never exceed the troposphere. 


The Winged Sun


Before and after sun’set’, we can see that the light moves up and out, into another dimension above the shadow of earth (belt of Venus), and beyond our sensory perception. I call this shadow the solar horizon.

The video displays a more suitable example of the horizon’s apparent sun’set’ in relation to the symbolic winged sun. I can’t help but always refer back to an old quote of Plato’s;

“We do not experience reality in the so-called ‘real world’, but only its dim shadow

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Solar symbolism is all around us







Proposed ‘Space Colonies’; always Concave- Why?


I decide to begin this entry out slightly off topic with a science fiction concept known as Ringworld. First published in 1970 by author, Larry Niven, Ringworld became an instant classic of science fiction, winning the Nebula Award in 1970, as well as both the Hugo Award and Locus Award in 1971, and was followed by three sequels (The Ringworld Engineers, The Ringworld Throne, and Ringworld’s Children) as well as several prequel novels, co-written with Edward M. Lerner (Fleet of Worlds, Juggler of Worlds, and Destroyer of Worlds). Such highly publicized and recognized literature would surely grasp the attention of Hollywood producers, right?… Wrong… Now over 45 years later, we have yet to see a movie related to Larry Niven’s Ringworld. There is said to have been many aborted attempts to adapt the novel to the screen.

  • In 2001, Larry Niven reported that a movie deal had been signed and was in the early planning stages.
  • In 2004, the Sci-Fi Channel reported that it was developing a Ringworld miniseries. The series never came to fruition.
  • In 2013, it was again announced by the SyFy Channel that a miniseries of the novel was in development. This proposed 4-hour miniseries is being written by Michael R. Perry and will be a co-production between MGM Television and Universal Cable Productions.
  • In 2017, Amazon announced that Ringworld was one of three science fiction series it was developing for its streaming service. MGM were again listed as a co-producer.

Here we are in 2018, Ringworld has yet to exist on screen. Why?… Could Ringworld influence a reality they’d rather keep us ignorant of? After all, the arch (parabola) has been depicted throughout known history as sacred.




Proposed Space Colonies 

In 1928, an Austro-Hungarian rocket pioneer (Herman Potocnik) published a book called ‘The problem with space travel‘. The book described a 100 foot (30 meter) ring-shaped space station that would rotate to generate “gravity“. Since then, every single model proposed for free space has been depicted as a ring or tube shaped object, with all life existing on the interior. And although these concepts rely heavily on the Coriolis Effect, the theory of gravity in general has ignored the most critical facts about the world & atmosphere in which we dwell; it’s called pressure, barometric to be precise. Not to mention how a sphere within a sphere creates electrical tension. Those that’ve done their research know that static electricity can and does allow water to curve. This is a fact that can be replicated and observed by anyone, but tends to go widely ignored by the flat earth movements. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again; Limiting the creation, limits the possibilities, therefor limiting the creator. Are we really prepared to create such limits to our reality?


Below is a compilation of science fiction space colony concepts, ringworlds, and other images for us to ponder. I encourage all to think for themselves, and question anything of popular opinion.

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Sun’rise’ & ‘set’- The Illusion that Defines the ‘Boundaries’ of our World (part 1)


What we experience to be “sunrise” and “sunset”, is in fact an optical illusion beyond our realm of sensory perception. The same applies with the moon and all other luminaries. And although modern science cannot dispute this, they’ve managed to substitute critical details with intangible, theoretic claims in an attempt to conceal our true, yet obscured reality. The Sun could be considered a radiant frequency in the form of energy, being cast through multiple dimensions of luminiferous atmosphere/aether within the flow of the electromagnetic field. Divergence & convergence of a dielectric field maintain a fluctuating grid across the reflective surface of earth. This dielectric field could be the reason for our blue skies. Just as the horizon is a sort of hallucination, so is the apparent ‘rising/setting’ sun. We all perceive our own individual Sun, but we experience its glory on a collective level. What we are not experiencing together, is being defined by the apparent ‘boundaries‘ of this very illusion, as we’re only capable of perceiving our world in small fragments… Bear with me, this will all make sense upon gaining your undivided attention; with the assumption that you’ve already brought an open mind. I am quite confident in its ability to resonate with the freest of minds, & its potential to enlighten those who seek a higher truth.

The limits of your mind define the boundaries of your world”   -Ritu Ghatourey

Universal symbolism within architecture encrypt the multidimensional Sun


Below; Rainbows could very well be revealing the dielectric field in conjunction to Earth’s surface. This is a topic difficult to conceptualize without going into detail. We will cover these detail’s in the near future, on a separate post.




So what’s occurring on a physical level before & after twilight? Is it possible to decipher illusion from reality, and reality from illusion? As humble as I’d like to approach this answer, i hold no reservation’s due to the overwhelming evidence I’ve acquired and am now prepared to present. Before we dig in, I must specify that I do not know what the Sun’s initial source is, nor how far it is. And no matter my doubt in its visibility to the human eye from earth, I can only suspect Venus. I will touch on a few more notion’s, but for now we will focus on the tangible evidence, and where it potentially leads in relation to our reality. The following list of topic’s are of vital importance to recognizing this very reality, & eventually delve into uncharted territory within the social “truth” communities.

  • Horizon
  • Surface Refraction
  • The Belt of Venus & The Shadow of Earth
  • Symbolism





  1. the line at which the earth’s surface and the sky appear to meet.
    “the sun rose above the horizon”
    synonyms:skyline · range of vision · field of view · vista · view
    • the circular boundary of the part of the earth’s surface visible from a particular point, ignoring irregularities and obstructions.
    • astronomy
      a great circle of the celestial sphere, the plane of which passes through the center of the earth and is parallel to that of the apparent horizon of a place.
  2. (horizons)
    the limit of a person’s mental perception, experience, or interest.
    “she wanted to leave home and broaden her horizons”
    synonyms: range of experience · outlook · perspective · scope

The late middle english definition of the word ‘horizon’ is spot on, emphasizing key terms (in bold) at an elementary level. When considering this definition alone, it’s perfectly safe to say that our ‘horizon’ is only; an appearance, our range of vision, field of view, visible boundary, mental perception, range of experience, perspective.. Other sources have defined the term as; an illusion, hallucination.. When observing the horizon, only an increase in altitude & angle would allow us to resolve this boundary of mental perception. To simplify with an example; the angular resolution of a crawling toddler is more limited than that of its standing mother, therefor both perceive slightly different horizons, hence sun’rise’ or ‘set’.

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The horizon, as defined, is an illusion, just as the perceived ‘rising’/’setting’ Sun
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What’s been depicted & perceived as “atmospheric layers” is, in reality, Earth. These obscured layers often reveal themselves on high altitude ballon footage.

It seemed a flat disc with upturned edge”       – Auguste Piccard 1931



Professor Piccard was well aware of his limited sensory perception from 10 miles above. Therefor, he knew he was only observing a small fraction of earth from this altitude when he witnessed this “upturned edge“.. I’ve come to wonder why he switched gears & went on to explore the vast oceans of earth after his experience. His son, Jacques Piccard, followed in his footsteps as an oceanographer & has also developed underwater vehicles for studying ocean currents. Why did their so-called space exploration come to a halt? It’s obvious their passion for truth was quite prominent. For Auguste to wrap up exploration of the sky/space, just to explore earth’s oceans, as well as influencing his son to do the same, doesn’t make much sense, right?.. Unless what’s above is literally, what’s below, and what’s below is literally, what’s above. Did the Piccard’s become aware of an inverted world in which humanity is cradled within the contours of a “cosmic egg“, just as the ancients believed? If this was the case, the closest way out of this world would be down.



Video- Observing Earths Hidden Horizons

Video- The Luminous Oasis & Shadow of Mother Earth

If you’re still skeptical about the direction I’m headed here; good.. In fact, I could only encourage this skepticism with such a brief & limited explanation of our perceived horizon. However, the list of subjects & topics are never-ending upon research of this very paradigm. I hope to cover as many as possible throughout the life of this website. But for now, we will continue with what’s observable and tangible.


Surface Refraction

This is a critical topic I recently published a video about on YouTube. It’s not as easy to present in an article, as observation of moving objects tend to reveal the effects of surface refraction much better than screenshots/photos. But I will do my best to explain, & also leave a link to the video in reference.


Modern science uses examples like we see above to explain upward refraction through a liquid medium (water). They also compare this effect to what we observe on the horizon. But they’ve left some significant details out that a child could notice, called geometric optics. When we observe the horizon, we are viewing out at a completely different angle than we would be when looking down into an aquarium or glass of water. We look out onto the horizon, and we look down into an aquarium. So in order to get an idea of the refraction effect the horizon displays, we must observe the aquarium or glass of water from a more suitable angle, the side. It becomes quite obvious that this refraction has the complete opposite effect than what we’ve been indoctrinated to believe.

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Looking down into water does not create the same refraction effect as looking out onto the horizon. The angle we observe effects the angle of refraction.

Here are a few more examples of surface refraction that clearly display a downward effect, rather than an “upward” effect. A link to the video will follow

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Clouds on the near horizon prominently display downward refraction
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Looking through a glass of water from the side shows a significant amount of downward refraction
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A flashlight behind a mirror laying flat below it, displays the same downward refraction. Oceans and mirages are highly reflective, just as the mirror used in this example
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Downward refraction is quite apparent within inverted, surface reflections (mirages)

Video- Debunking the ‘Upward’ Refraction Farce

Video- 0.5 miles No Earth Convexity, Upward Surface Refraction Destroyed


The Belt of Venus & The Shadow of Earth

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“We do not experience reality in the so-called ‘real world’, but only its dim shadow”   -Plato

I firmly suspect that what I displayed above is the very “dim shadow” Plato was referring to in his quote concerning ‘reality in the so-called real world‘. As the modern day outlook on Platos described “form” is not only minimized to allegoric meaning, but is carried into a technical metaphor in which strictly pertains to an “idea” only.  It’s no wonder many find his literature hard to comprehend, as the translations are designed to obscure the physical realities within. For those who’ve read my previous article titled/linked, “What did the Ancients really thing about the shape of Earth”, they should have an idea of what Plato & Socrates really thought about the earth/realm in which we exist. I’ve personally come to think that philosophy was intentionally banished from science by design, as this very philosophy is an academic discipline that relies heavily on knowledge, logic & understanding of nature and reality in general. Therefor, it’s a real academic form of science that can be especially maintained by the Socratic Method, also known as Maieutics. It was Socrates that was said be the first, in known history, to coin the phrase “question everything“. It was also depicted that the Athenians sentenced him to death for ‘heresy, treason and corruption of the youth‘. I found it rather interesting after learning that all who spoke of this very paradigm (interior earth) were either murdered, or died under suspicion/unknown circumstances. Either way, let’s get back to the point of this section.

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The grid on the bottom set shows the hidden horizons that hide behind our range of perception

Using the term ‘hidden horizons’ in a literal sense, tends to be the most simplistic way of explaining this. There’s our visual horizon, and then there’s what I call, the ‘solar horizon‘. The visual horizon being; the line at which we perceive ‘sky and earth convergence’. And the solar horizon being; the top of the ‘shadow well above our visual horizon. To elaborate further, we must recognize our range of perception & its limits. Below are comparisons of 2 photos of Dubai, both taken in the same direction, at different altitudes.

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The line displays our line of perception from the image at a lower altitude
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Just as the horizon, our apparent sun’rise’ & sun’set’ is an illusion, determined by our field of view
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The only ‘boundaries’ we have of our world are in our mind



This is the section that requires an article of its own. I’ve went into a few details in my most recent video, ‘The Illusion that defines the “Boundaries” or our world; & the potential symbolism’. Part 2 will go much more into depth…








What did the Ancients really think about the shape of Earth? updated

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I remember being taught a vast amount of information in my history class when I was in middle school, but I’ve come to question every bit of it over the past decade. It was in fact my history teacher that told me; “the ancients believed the world to be flat”, & I believed her. Then in 2013 I became aware of the globe deception, & eventually Eric Dubay, amongst others, convinced me that earth was really “flat” in many ways. He also repeated exactly what my history teacher told me; “the ancients believed the earth to be flat”. Who in their free mind would believe that we’re really on a random “ball, hurling through vast chaos” anyway? It took me another four years of research, observation & reflection to recognize that I was still being deceived on many levels, especially with the overwhelming flat earth influence on all social media sites & beyond. Now it’s the year 2018, & FE (flat earth) has practically gone mainstream. FE propaganda is everywhere, even on billboards. And millions have flocked on board to demand that “earth is in fact, flat”. The number of believers are growing faster than any psy-op in our known history, & I won’t be surprised when a billion people become true believers in the flat earth paradigm. While some have put the effort & time into research and observation of their world, many more others have never went beyond YouTube and Facebook in their FE journey. For those that ‘haven’t’, their predetermined beliefs have caused them to ignore anything that doesn’t fit their preferred paradigm, and I’m just as guilty as anyone. We are all vulnerable to being deceived and always will be until we choose to wash our programming down the river’s of belief. And even then, we must remain humble & conscious of our limits to know the actual truth. Beliefs hinder knowledge, and we are minuscule compared to the monstrous world we can only experience in tiny fragments.

So what did the ancients really believe about the shape of earth? Where is all the evidence to their so-called “beliefs in a flat earth”? Should we trust the “official story”? Let’s go back & take a look at what’s been depicted by these alleged ancient civilizations that’ve influenced so many secret societies, royal families & their occult practices. Or was it the other way around; did the secret societies & royal families influence the depictions of history, civilization & occult practices? I tend to suspect it goes both ways, yet still very significant to give attention to. As anything, we must take each patch of information with a grain of salt & compare everything as a whole. For those that’ve delved deep enough, you should be aware that there’s nothing new under the sun, & the true history of humanity and earth are far richer & more advanced than we’ve been indoctrinated to believe…

The Egyptian Universe depicts a ‘hole‘, or ‘cave‘ as their reality. The term ‘deep‘ is used numerous times in the Bible when relating to the creation and the universe. 
The Moon card of Crowley’s Thoth tarot card deck.


Ancient Egypt & The Emerald Tablets of Hermes


Translations From- Jabir ibn Hayyan

1) “Balinas mentions the engraving on the table in the hand of Hermes, which says: 1) Truth! Certainty! That in which there is no doubt!”
2) “That which is above is from that which is below, and that which is below is from that which is above, working the miracles of one“.
3) “As all things were from one”.                                                                                                    4) “Its father is the Sun and its mother the Moon”.
5) “The Earth carried it in her belly, and the Wind nourished it in her belly, 7) as Earth which shall become Fire.”
7) “Feed the Earth from that which is subtle, with the greatest power”.
8) “It ascends from the earth to the heaven and becomes ruler over that which is above and that which is below.”


Should we limit depictions as such to allegoric & metaphoric meaning? This is exactly how the majority of researchers take these translations, for most cannot fathom the hidden possibilities to the extent of reality. I’ve heard everything from “The Mandela Effect” to “Flat Earth” in reference to the images below. Should we be thinking “one dimensional” when it comes to our physical reality? Have we proven the Mandela Effect with 100% certainty? “No” would be my answer to both questions, but I could only encourage readers to think about it themselves… Looking at the Emerald Tablet translations; number two’s emphasis on “as above so below” clearly depicts no separation between the two (above/below), & even states “working the miracle of one”. If on a physical level, the phrase would correspond to everything that surrounds us, or above us is exactly the same as below us. Not just a few things, but everything. Number 3 states that “all things were from one“. Once again, there’s no separation depicted. Number 4, “Its father is the Sun and its mother the Moon”. and 5, The earth carried it in her belly”. Should I say anything further, or let the reader ponder on these two phrases while analyzing the images below? Surely it will resonate with someone.



Egyptian Flat Earth?


Nut, covered in stars is considered the “Sky Goddess“. Geb, her alleged brother & husband lay below spread out, is considered the “Earth God“. The flat earth movement’s have used this very illustration as so-called “evidence” that Egyptian’s believed the earth to be “flat” with a “dome” above, with the ‘dome’ being “Nut“. Yet they fail to mention “Geb, God of the Earth“. They also give no attention to the two deities standing above, beyond the sky, on each side. Until FE & globe researchers recognize the significant possibilities of the sky literally hiding earth and water curving within, they will remain closed to its plausabilities. The phrase “hidden horizons” does not have to be limited to a metaphor, it is very likely a reality as I will clearly show in a following blog. Nut, the sky goddess has been displayed in other positions with her “feathers of truth” spread out in the shape of an arch.



Ancient Sumerians & Babylonians


The following is an excerpt from a book called: “The Sumerians- their history, culture and character, published in 1963, chapter 4- Religion: theology, rite and myth:

“In the eyes of Sumerian teachers & sages, the major components of the universe were heaven & earth; indeed, their term for the universe was ‘an-ki’, a compound meaning “heaven-earth”. The earth was a flat disc surmounted by a vast hollow space, completely inclosed by a solid surface in the shape of a vault. Surrounding the heaven-earth on all sides, as well as top & bottom, was the boundless sea in which the universe somehow remained fixed & immovable.”

So the above excerpt clearly depicts the Sumerians believed earth was “flat“, right? Wrong; Only the translations & author have depicted such limitations to their paradigm. There’s much more information to analyze in this brief paragraph that strongly suggest a different story. If we think about the words & phrases in bold letters, a more elaborate, but less fathomable picture comes to mind for the free-minded thinkers.


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“The Aztec world consisted of three main parts: the earth world on which humans lived, an underworld which belonged to the dead, and the upper plane in the sky. The earth and the underworld were both open for humans to enter, whereas the upper plane in the sky was impenetrable to humans. Existence was envisioned as straddling the two worlds in a cycle of birth, life, death and rebirth. Thus as the sun was believed to dwell in the underworld at night to rise reborn in the morning and maize kernels were interred to later sprout anew, so the human and divine existence was also envisioned as being cyclical. The upper and nether worlds were both thought to be layered. Mictlan had nine layers which were inhabited by different deities and mythical beings. The sky had thirteen layers, the highest of which was called Omeyocan and served as the residence of the progenitor dual god Ometeotl. The lowest layer of the sky was a verdant spring-like place with abundant water called Tlalocan. In Aztec cosmology, as in Mesoamerica in general, geographical features such as caves and mountains held symbolic value as places of crossing between the upper and nether worlds. The cardinal directions were symbolically connected to the religious layout of the world as well; each direction was associated with specific colors and Gods.”   –Wikipedia


First off, we can see that the Sumarians associated heaven & earth as one living, breathing system. The Aztec’s depicted earth and the underworld as open to humans, but the “upper plane in the sky was impenetrable to humans”. Geographical features such as caves & mountains also held symbolic value to the Aztec’s. The Sumerian texts seem to be switched around within the translation. It appears to be telling us that earth is in motion, & that’s a contradiction to what many believe to be a “flat earth”. From ancient Aztecs, Babylonians to modern science, there are countless sources that’ve depicted the “universe to be flat & earth to be curved”. For those that’ve been studying cosmologies & cosmogonies, the depictions of a “flat astral-plane” or “astral-worlds” have been emphasized to a high level of significance. This very disc is said to be “Surmounted by a vast hollow space, completely inclosed by a solid surface in the shape of a vault.”

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Observable evidence of a flat astral-plane

And this is exactly where a switch seems to be created within academic’s in order to confuse humanity about the ancient’s astronomical & world view’s. The last sentence of the Sumerian excerpt may give us a big clue; “Surrounding the ‘heaven-earth’ on all sides, as well as top & bottom, was the boundless sea in which the universe somehow remained fixed & immovable.” While again, the Aztecs explain thisupper plane as impenetrable to humans“. Can you recognize what they’ve likely mixed up in translation? With contradictory “heavens” depicted as being “flat”, what would be the “surrounding, ‘boundless sea’ on all sides, as well as top and bottom, that remained fixed and immovable“? Most free-minded reserchers would agree that earth is most likely ‘fixed and immovable’. I personally think the depictions of an inner, concave earth have been obscured & minimized to a limited paradigm, such as FE. The story doesn’t match up & that should be an eye-opener to all who think for themselves, instead of following popular opinion.



Let’s give close attention to the Babylonian/alchemic & Aztec illustrations of the “cosmic egg“, universe models above. I flipped one to give us a different perspective… These are models used as so-called “evidence that the ancients believed earth to be flat“. But what features are being overlooked within these ‘cosmic eggs‘? First off, there are deer, snakes, insects & other life in the canopy of what we call “the tree of life“. Yes, that’s life being illustrated within the arch of what FE considers the “dome“. Yet no animals/life on the disc in the middle of this ‘egg‘. We also see light being carried on a rainbow below the disc in which FE considers to be “the underworld“. But just as the Sumerians depicted, this very disc is “surmounted by a vast hollow space, completely inclosed by a solid surface in the shape of a vault”, while also being “surrounded on all sides, as well as top & bottom, by a boundless sea that remained fixed & immovable“. This ‘surmounted, surrounding, fixed & immovable, solid surface with a boundless sea’ sounds exactly like the realm in which life would dwell, just as the deer show in the illustration. And once again, the Aztecs depicted the “central plane to be impenetrable by humans”. The Emerald Tablets of Hermes depicted ‘what is above, is below’, & visa versa. Lastly, what’s been suspected as a magnetic “mountain” (Mount Meru) in the geographic center of a ‘flat earth‘ AE model has never been found or photographed, yet closely resembles what’s suspected to be in the center of a concave earth. This has been encrypted in the entertainment industry as “Lucy in the sky with diamonds” & “shine on crazy diamond”. It’s also a hidden reference to “Lucifer & the Illuminated one“, which we will get into more detail about later. I’ve also compared what’s said to be the radiant density of CMOR meteor orbits, to solar atmospheric refraction/dispersion (sun-dogs/hallows), & the similarities are somewhat striking to say the least.



Ancient Greek Pholosophy

Illustration of Plato’s Allegory of the Cave

Socrates and Plato had world view’s that many are still unaware of today, as they both believed we lived inside a ‘concave earth‘ or a “geode“. Socrates was said to be put to death, just as every other influential person that tried to reveal this very ‘interior‘ paradigm to the world. Plato was much more cautious & approached most of his work on an allegoric or metaphoric level. But the “form” he spoke of ties into the suspected reality of our inner world with perfection. Only an oblivious society would minimize his work to a simple “idea“, while ignoring the physical plausibilities… The following are excerpts of Plato’s literature that strongly display their beliefs of the ‘world around us‘.


“What do you mean, Socrates? said Simmias. I have myself heard many descriptions of the earth, but I do not know in what you are putting your faith, and I should like to know. Well, Simmias, replied Socrates, the recital of a tale does not, I think, require the art of Glaucus; and I know not that the art of Glaucus could prove the truth of my tale, which I myself should never be able to prove, and even if I could, I fear, Simmias, that my life would come to an end before the argument was completed. I may describe to you, however, the form and regions of the earth according to my conception of them.  
  That, said Simmias, will be enough. Well, then, he said, my conviction is that the earth is a round body in the center of the heavens, and therefore has no need of air or any similar force as a support, but is kept there and hindered from falling or inclining any way by the equability of the surrounding heaven and by her own equipoise. For that which, being in equipoise, is in the center of that which is equably diffused, will not incline any way in any degree, but will always remain in the same state and not deviate. And this is my first notion. Which is surely a correct one, said Simmias. Also I believe that the earth is very vast, and that we who dwell in the region extending from the river Phasis to the Pillars of Heracles, along the borders of the sea, are just like ants or frogs about a marsh, and inhabit a small portion only, and that many others dwell in many like places. For I should say that in all parts of the earth there are hollows of various forms and sizes, into which the water and the mist and the air collect; and that the true earth is pure and in the pure heaven, in which also are the stars—that is the heaven which is commonly spoken of as the ether, of which this is but the sediment collecting in the hollows of the earth. But we who live in these hollows are deceived into the notion that we are dwelling above on the surface of the earth; which is just as if a creature who was at the bottom of the sea were to fancy that he was on the surface of the water, and that the sea was the heaven through which he saw the sun and the other stars—he having never come to the surface by reason of his feebleness and sluggishness, and having never lifted up his head and seen, nor ever heard from one who had seen, this region which is so much purer and fairer than his own. Now this is exactly our case: for we are dwelling in a hollow of the earth, and fancy that we are on the surface; and the air we call the heaven, and in this we imagine that the stars move. But this is also owing to our feebleness and sluggishness, which prevent our reaching the surface of the air: for if any man could arrive at the exterior limit, or take the wings of a bird and fly upward, like a fish who puts his head out and sees this world, he would see a world beyond; and, if the nature of man could sustain the sight, he would acknowledge that this was the place of the true heaven and the true light and the true stars. For this earth, and the stones, and the entire region which surrounds us are spoilt and corroded, like the things in the sea which are corroded by the brine; for in the sea too there is hardly any noble or perfect growth, but clefts only, and sand, and an endless slough of mud: and even the shore is not to be compared to the fairer sights of this world. And greater far is the superiority of the other. Now of that upper earth which is under the heaven, I can tell you a charming tale, Simmias, which is well worth hearing.”             -Excerpt from ‘The Apology, Phaedo and Crito of Socrates’ by Plato

The above excerpt was self explanatory, & the world view of Socrates was apparently on the ‘interior of earth‘. Should we question what Plato depicted of Socrates & it’s translations? Of coarse, everything must be taken with skepticism, but when the dots keep connecting, we must follow. And this specific paradigm has a never-ending trail that I’ve personally never experienced with any other alternative. No matter how much I attempt to prove a ‘concave/hollow earth‘ wrong, I not only fail, but end up finding more & more to support the notion. It was never a preferred world view of mine on a personal level, it seemed to find me more than I found it.

Allegory of the Cave


“Plato has Socrates describe a group of people who have lived chained to the wall of a cave all of their lives, facing a blank wall. The people watch shadows projected on the wall from objects passing in front of a fire behind them, and give names to these shadows. The shadows are the prisoners’ reality. Socrates explains how the philosopher is like a prisoner who is freed from the cave and comes to understand that the shadows on the wall are not reality at all, for he can perceive the true form of reality rather than the manufactured reality that is the shadows seen by the prisoners. The inmates of this place do not even desire to leave their prison; for they know no better life. The prisoners manage to break their bonds one day, and discover that their reality was not what they thought it was. They discovered the sun, which Plato uses as an analogy for the fire that man cannot see behind. Like the fire that cast light on the walls of the cave, the human condition is forever bound to the impressions that are received through the senses. Even if these interpretations (or, in Kantian terminology, intuitions) are an absurd misrepresentation of reality, we cannot somehow break free from the bonds of our human condition – we cannot free ourselves from phenomenal state just as the prisoners could not free themselves from their chains. If, however, we were to miraculously escape our bondage, we would find a world that we could not understand – the sun is incomprehensible for someone who has never seen it. In other words, we would encounter another “realm”, a place incomprehensible because, theoretically, it is the source of a higher reality than the one we have always known; it is the realm of pure Form, pure fact.
Socrates remarks that this allegory can be paired with previous writings, namely the analogy of the sun and the analogy of the divided line.”

Imprisonment in the cave
“Plato begins by having Socrates ask Glaucon to imagine a cave where people have been imprisoned from birth. These prisoners are chained so that their legs and necks are fixed, forcing them to gaze at the wall in front of them and not look around at the cave, each other, or themselves. Behind the prisoners is a fire, and between the fire and the prisoners is a raised walkway with a low wall, behind which people walk carrying objects or puppets “of men and other living things”. The people walk behind the wall so their bodies do not cast shadows for the prisoners to see, but the objects they carry do (“just as puppet showmen have screens in front of them at which they work their puppets”. The prisoners cannot see any of what is happening behind them, they are only able to see the shadows cast upon the cave wall in front of them. The sounds of the people talking echo off the walls, and the prisoners believe these sounds come from the shadows.
Socrates suggests that the shadows are reality for the prisoners because they have never seen anything else; they do not realize that what they see are shadows of objects in front of a fire, much less that these objects are inspired by real things outside the cave.” 

Departure from the cave
“Plato then supposes that one prisoner is freed. This prisoner would look around and see the fire. The light would hurt his eyes and make it difficult for him to see the objects casting the shadows. If he were told that what he is seeing is real instead of the other version of reality he sees on the wall, he would not believe it. In his pain, Plato continues, the freed prisoner would turn away and run back to what he is accustomed to (that is, the shadows of the carried objects). He writes “… it would hurt his eyes, and he would escape by turning away to the things which he was able to look at, and these he would believe to be clearer than what was being shown to him.”
Plato continues: “Suppose… that someone should drag him… by force, up the rough ascent, the steep way up, and never stop until he could drag him out into the light of the sun.”The prisoner would be angry and in pain, and this would only worsen when the radiant light of the sun overwhelms his eyes and blinds him.
“Slowly, his eyes adjust to the light of the sun. First he can only see shadows. Gradually he can see the reflections of people and things in water and then later see the people and things themselves. Eventually, he is able to look at the stars and moon at night until finally he can look upon the sun itself. Only after he can look straight at the sun “is he able to reason about it” and what it is.”

Return to the cave
“Plato continues, saying that the freed prisoner would think that the world outside the cave was superior to the world he experienced in the cave; “he would bless himself for the change, and pity [the other prisoners]” and would want to bring his fellow cave dwellers out of the cave and into the sunlight.
The returning prisoner, whose eyes have become accustomed to the sunlight, would be blind when he re-enters the cave, just as he was when he was first exposed to the sun. The prisoners, according to Plato, would infer from the returning man’s blindness that the journey out of the cave had harmed him and that they should not undertake a similar journey. Socrates concludes that the prisoners, if they were able, would therefore reach out and kill anyone who attempted to drag them out of the cave”




Corporate Logo Symbolism Encrypt A Concave Earth Paradigm

Allstate Insurance Company

Just as banks & governments, corporations maintain a close connection to occult practices. Numbers, signs, language, symbolism all have far deeper meanings to our physical existence than most researchers could even recognize as a possibility. We’ve been disconnected from nature, raw instinct & pure intuition by social programming & a vast number of mind control techniques that’ve only gotten more advanced & embedded within societies narcissistic belief system. Humans were born with natural instincts, just as all animals. Some of us are more in-tuned than others, but our engineered society was designed to keep us from tapping into such instincts.. How we can look at earth & space in complete disregard of the very nature we experience within them is proof, alone, that we’ve been conditioned to be oblivious to the true reality in which we dwell.

Does this logos symbolism “prove” earth to be concave? Of coarse not, especially in a system that will only consider numbers & formulas to be acceptable as so-called “proof”. But to ignore something that’s being encrypted on such a large scale would be, well, ignorant. Universal symbolism tied to occult practices must be considered unless we are arrogant enough to believe in sheer coincidence. In my world, ‘coincidences’ don’t exist on such a scale… What does our research tell us on a collective level? What have we come to recognize after years of observation & study on endless topics & literature? What correlates with corporate logos/symbolism? What world/earth model works flawlessly in comparison to the alternatives? The questions only expand upon finding answers, so the journey will never end for the most tenacious & honest of researchers.

Above, Allstate Insurance Company logo displays a sealed perimeter of a blue spheroid with the palms of cupped hands. Also notice the larger reflection of light in the top left & smaller reflection of light on the bottom right. The similarities of light within a dielectric field on a concave earth model & the reflections of light on this very logo are quite compelling to say the least. The larger reflection of light is directed on the wrist of one hand and symbolizes ancient ritualistic blood sacrifice/letting of Sol/Sun worship.  “You’re in good hands with Allstate” has been their slogan for decades & is still used today. If there was deeper meaning to this logo, which there always is, would we not suspect it to be tied to our reality, or the secrets there of?


Below, General Electric‘s logo displays four waves inside a blue, spherical shaped symbol. Why waves on the inside? The physics of electricity have already verified that a sphere within a sphere can create electrical tension, then resulting to a frequency that was said to be discovered by Professor Winifred Otto Schumann in 1951 at the University Of Munich. Are we aware of what these frequencies are capable of on a physical scale?.. I can already hear the first flat earther saying “water always finds its level“!. Yes it does find its level within our realm of fragmented experiences & perception, but what’s happening beyond the point our experience & senses fail. Are the physics of our world just as fragmented as our perception?.. This very electrical tension also conducts static electricity. Pressure & static electricity have significant effects on water that can be displayed & observed in a number of experiments, not to mention the effects of resonance we have only a clue about, if any. The point is; water could very well be curving within a resonant, statically charged, pressurized system. And the limits of our mind define the boundaries of our world.  Why are there so many interior encryptions within symbolism if our reality was really on the so-called ‘top surface’?

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United Way- Just as the Allstate Insurance logo, United Way displays man within the contour of a palm; should we not suspect this palm to represent a reality?

United Way


Wikileaks– Notice the top sphere within the hour glass dripping down to reveal a hollow sphere at the bottom? Coincidence? I personally doubt that seriously, as everything has meaning. But I can only encourage all to think critically for themselves.




AT&T– This sphere clearly displays blue on the inside which represents water. Just another symbol encrypting the interior concept.




Ajax Paving– Clearly displaying the perspective of a road within (inside) the contour of a surface. Encryptions of interior again. Why?

Ajax Paving



Sony Ericsson- Speaks for itself, encrypting interior

Sony Ericsson



United Nations– Displaying the AE projection map of the world, many have come to suspect earth to be flat, just as I did for a few years. & the wreath surrounding this projection has been suspected to be Antarctica. A Wreath is always associated with evergreen and it’s circular shape represents eternity, for it has no beginning and no end. From the religious perspective of the Christian, it represents an unending circle of life. The evergreen, most frequently used in making wreathes, symbolizes growth and everlasting life. Does that sound like a frozen continent? Once again, I personally suspect the encryption of an interior circle of life.


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To be continued

Biblical Concave Earth


Isaiah 40:12 “Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance”



I’m not a firm believer that all truth can be found in one place, such as scripture alone. In fact, I don’t care to believe anything that might hinder my ability for future knowledge. It’s only wise that we take everything we read with a grain of salt. The more we expand our sources, the more knowledge we are likely to gain.. What does everything say collectively as a whole? What resonates & fills up the most in that pile of metaphoric ‘salt we patiently take by the grain’? These are the questions we should be asking ourselves & finding the answers to. In order to achieve this, the deep research of multiple topics & philosophies are required; and scripture will be the first to analyze here.e9b6414d72a6029640f0b63ae537c3d3

While millions have been convinced that the bible tells of a flat earth paradigm, I would however like to point out how well it correlates with a concave earth. I’d also like to bring some awareness to how only our beliefs limit the creation, therefor limiting the creator. Are we that arrogant to actually think we have it all figured out? Do we recognize how minuscule we are compared to the monstrous world around us? Either way, I’m not here to say “what is” or “what isn’t”, but only to share my research. And although I will refrain from the astro theo-cosmological aspect of the bible, I would like to try & highlight some significant details that caught my attention after becoming highly suspicious of living within the interior of earth… I will continue to update this thread upon further research.


Genesis 1: 2  “And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters”


“Earth was without form and void”; So after earth was created, it still had no form, nor void, but it was in existence?

“and darkness was on the face of the deep”; No void, with darkness on the face of the deep? We will see that term (deep) quite often

“And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters”; Meaning he was not underwater, he was moving upon the face of water.

There was no form or void on the face of the deep or the face of water until God moved upon them. This would suggest creation from within. We will get into more references of the terms “deep” and “cave” further on.

eden-550 copyPsalm 104: 2  “Who covers thyself with light as with a garment: who stretch out the heavens like a curtain”

Psalm 104: 6  “Thou covers it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains”

“Who stretch out the heavens like a curtain”: Would a flat or convex earth require a “stretch out of the heavens”? Always possible, but the shape of a “garment” is similar to that of light propagation within a concave earth model.

“Thou covers it with the deep as with a garment”: There’s that term “deep” again.   

“The waters stood above the mountains”: There’s logically only one possibility if this verse was a reality, as water would not stand above mountains on a flat or convex earth; maybe flow, but not stand. Only a concave earth would make sense.


Psalm 136: 6  “To him that stretched out the earth above the waters: for his mercy endureth for ever”

Stretched out the earth above the waters: “Self explanatory if earth is concave”

Psalm 40:22 “It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in” 

Screen Shot 2018-02-03 at 7.41.36 PMProverbs 8:27  “When He established the heavens, I was there, when he inscribed a circle on the face of the deep”

“inscribed a circle on the face of the deep”: Self explanatory when considering a concave earth


Matthew 12:40   “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth”

Does this signify being on the top surface of anything, whether flat or convex? I personally don’t see it. The existence of humanity dwelling within the hollow of earth may be more evident than most will recognize.



To be continued 



Concave Earth Maps Galore

The following is a collection of world maps from many eras & civilizations. Something critical we should observe with an open mind; Lines of longitude would diverge center & converge outward if the maps were created to show the outside of a sphere, but the complete opposite is encrypted in hundreds of antique world maps. Also notice the shape & contour of South America, amongst other continents. There’s only one paradigm that concurs 100% with nature as we know it. To ignore the concave earth possibilities is to ignore this very nature itself.

I spent over a year collecting these old maps to compile as a whole & share with other enthusiasts & researchers alike… Dates & names are captioned as the information was available to me. I will be continuously updating this thread with more maps on a weekly basis. Enjoy…

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Dutch 1696

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Asian Concave World Maps

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More Unique Concave Earth Maps/ Heart Shaped/ Some Considered Ancient

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